David Walliams: Frank chat at York Barbican. Picture: Charlie Clift
CANDID conversation, outrageous anecdotes, storytelling and surprises combine in An Evening With David Walliams, actor, writer, sketch comedian and talent show judge, at York Barbican on November 4.
Everything, from his breakthrough with Matt Lucas on Little Britain, Come Fly With Me and judging duty on Britain’s Got Talent to his prolific book writing for young readers, will be on the table, opening in Little Britain attire and topped off with the chance to put questions to “one of Britain’s most beloved entertainers” in the second-half Q&A.
“I was last in York for a book signing about a year ago. I love the city,” he says. “Went to the Minster, bought some old-fashioned sweets. I like cities and towns where you can walk around, not too big. That’s why I like Edinburgh, Bath and York.
“I love the National Railway Museum too. I’ve been there a few times. I went there as a kid, when the Mallard was my favourite. I had a Horny train set too. I like a train journey, so I’ve always wanted to write a book based around trains but I haven’t had the right idea yet.”
When does he know that moment has arrived? “I think it’s when…I make a lot of notes…and it’s normally when you have a number of ideas coming out of you at once. What will make it different from other books?” says David, whose books have been translated into 55 languages.
“I read a brilliant book by Stephen King about writing where he said, ‘a good book has to have two ideas’, and it just stuck with me. With kids’ books, you write in a world halfway between imagination and reality, Like, if there was an empty house on my street as a child, I would say it was haunted.
“With each book now, it’s very much a case of having to top the last book, having started by drawing on my childhood experiences, like The Boy In The Dress, writing stories very much grounded in our world, even though fantastical things might be happening.
“But as I went on, I had to invent more, or I would have written the same book again, and indeed I’ve had to let my imagination run riot. What is popular with kids is writing a series of books, like The World’s Worst Children, but most of the time with my books I have to start with a new character, maybe a new setting.”
Writing a book can be a slog, but that slog is worthwhile. “It’s not something I can speed up. It’s not something you can dash off,” says David, who puts plenty of planning into his writing. “Some things get cancelled because they’re just not working.”
Has the prolific David Walliams ever experienced writer’s block? “Sometimes I don’t know what to write, but I then just get up and do something else. There is always tomorrow,” he says. “Sometimes maybe you need to go for a walk, or weirdly, when you’re not thinking about it, your brain goes into problem-solving mode and comes up with the solution.
“I’m constantly alive to ideas, wherever they come from, like reading an article in the newspaper and thinking, ‘this is a great story’. The other day I was reading about an archaeologist and then flipped it on its head for an [Egyptian] mummy to travel to the modern world.
“It’s stuff like that which makes you constantly open to new ideas – and I’ve had many more ideas than I’ve used. Just like with Little Britain, where we had so many characters that never saw the light of day, maybe two thirds of the things we came up with.”
The three series of Walliams & Lucas’s satirical sketch show Little Britain aired from 2003 and 2005 and, such is the nature of comedy, they were very much of their time whereas books tend to transcend time – or so I suggested to David.
“My son is 12 and we watch comedy movies together, and he’s drawn to the ones from 20 years ago, like Borat [from 2006] and the Austin Powers films [from 1997 to 2002]. You might think, ‘you couldn’t do that now’, but I think, ‘what’s the point of this debate?’. They’re still really funny. Sometimes it’s context.
“If you don’t like Borat, which I think is the funniest film ever made, what are you going to do to complain about it?”
David continues: “Interestingly, people are still finding Little Britain funny and teenagers are sharing it on social media, which is pleasing because it means they’re enjoying it. You can remember bad reviews and negative voices, which are always loud. People can always turn off the TV if they don’t like it.
“You have to remember that there’s a spread of opinions, and just because there are negative opinions, it doesn’t mean they are more important.
“At the end of the day, there were moments of satire, but it was silly as well, and entertaining people, if you’re successful, is a fantastic feeling, because it can be life-changing when people say ‘I was going through difficult times and thank you for helping me to get through that’.”
Humour, by its nature, will either be found funny or not, and that may change with changing tastes too. “Come Fly With Me, which came out in 2011 [first episode, December 25 2010], the kids are really into it now, partly because it’s edgy,” says David. “We’re watching things thinking ‘you couldn’t make that now’, but Mitchell & Webb have just done a new sketch show [Mitchell And Webb Are Not Helping, Channel 4] that I loved.
“It’s just that people are much more able to articulate their response now. You can be on your phone at the same time [as you are watching], saying you find something offensive, whereas before you had to call the BBC and wait in a queue, when 100 complaints would be a big deal.”
Was he tempted to call his tour show ‘A Night With’ rather than ‘An Evening With’? “No. I think if you said ‘Night’, you would think you’d be up all night on a crawl of kebab shops!” he reasons. “I was first asked to go to Australia and New Zealand with ‘An Evening With’ and had a brilliant time there as they’re very aware of what shows I’ve done.
“We put together this show with all my funny stories and favourite characters, talking about my career and where ideas came from, showing clips of the best bits, then inviting audience questions.”
What is the most unusual question he has been asked? “In Australia, an 11-year-old girl said her mum had given her her ticket because she wasn’t well…‘My question is, who are you?’! The audience love it when they put you down.”
He is enjoying the format, with more shows planned for next year after this autumn’s dates in York, Hull and Derby. “It’s like a stand-up show with a stool for me to sit on,” says David. “I’m at that age [54] where you make noises when you get up!”
An Evening With David Walliams, York Barbican, November 4, 7.30pm. Box office: yorkbarbican.co.uk. Also Hull Connexin Live, November 5, 7.30pm. Box office: https://connexinlivehull.com/