AVANT-GARDE North Yorkshire arts impresario Simon Thackray is bringing The Shed out of hibernation for the first time in a decade to stage an experimental gig in York on February 1.
Comedian Stewart Lee, already in the city for a five-night run of Stewart Lee Vs The Man-Wulf at York Theatre Royal that week, will be the narrator for the 3.30pm performance of John Cage’s cult 1959 work Indeterminacy at the National Centre for Early Music, St Margaret’s Church, Walmgate.
“Important note,” says Simon. “This is not a comedy gig. Stewart is keen that people know it is definitely not an extra Stewart Lee tour date.”
Lee will be joining forces with Tania Caroline Chen, piano, and Steve Beresford, piano and objects. Objects? “I don’t know what objects they will be!” admits Stewart.
Indeterminacy was a 1959 double LP on the Folkways label by John Cage and David Tudor, where Cage read 90 of his stories, each one, whether long or short, lasting one minute. Unheard by Cage, Tudor simultaneously played the piano and other things in another room.
One day, pianists Chen and Beresford were listening to the record and decided they should do their own version, hitting on Stewart Lee, a deadpan stand-up with a love of experimental music, to be “the voice”.
“It’s Tania and Steve’s show,” says Stewart, who stresses: “It’s not a comedy show, but it is quite funny in its way.
“We’ve been doing it for 15 years now, and there’s a recording we did that David Grubbs, the Cage scholar in America, reckons we really ‘got’ what Cage was seeking to do.
“The piece is for improvising musicians, working with a voice that is not expressive. Cage wrote down these 90 stories of different lengths on cards that he does in a random order. You have to do each story in exactly a minute, whether it’s 50 words or 200 words, letting the words do the work, which is what Tania and Steve spotted I do in my stand-up. The juxtaposition of each story and the music creates different frissons and patterns.”
The trio’s version is usually 40 minutes in length, and unlike Cage and Tudor, the players are in the same room but still “do their best” to not hear Stewart’s reading – done with a stop-watch timer at his side – as they play music on and in a piano and use other small sound sources.
“The musicians are trying to support me and I’m trying to support them but not create a mood, though occasionally it oversteps that, and that’s what’s indeterminable about it. It seems that Cage created this character that doesn’t realise what he’s doing!”
Lee’s comedy has been described as being “characterised by repetition, internal reference and deadpan delivery”. “I think those three elements are there in Cage’s writing too,” says Stewart. “Deadpan is easy with Cage because he specifically says he does not want you to ‘perform’ or ‘interpret’ the story. You have to try not to sell it.”
Simon notes:: “It has elements of Mrs Boyes’ Bingo that we used to do with legendary Malton bingo caller Mrs Boyes and improvising percussionist Mark Sanders. It’s that collision of words and music, with the spoken word being unrelated to the musicians, who are performing unrelated to anything else that’s going on. You’re putting three people in a box, shaking it up, and seeing what comes out!”
Stewart is delighted to be working with Simon once more, having been a Shed regular, indeed having performed the last official Shed show in Brawby in 2015. “Originally I was going to do a Pump Disco at the Milton Rooms, asking Stewart if he would do a sewage protest gig in Malton,” recalls Simon.
“Simon said, ‘can you do this show?’ and I said ‘Not unless I can do it while I’m on tour’,” says Stewart. The York Theatre Royal run was put in place and, as it happened, the Saturday afternoon was availableat the NCEM. “Now Tania is coming over from San Francisco just to do the show,” he reveals.
On the subject of The Shed, Stewart says: “I was always very grateful to make Simon’s venue a stop on the tour. I used to love his doing shows out on the moors and how he did that thing that the BBC doesn’t believe in any more: where, if you put on weird stuff, people will come because people are more broadminded than they’re given credit for”.
Simon, who staged multiple left-field gigs, innovative installations and surrealist arts events in his home village of Brawby, Hovingham, York and on BBC Radio 3 from 1992 to 2015, is a Malton town councillor and environmental campaigner these days.
“The gig is being staged to ‘encourage’ Yorkshire Water to go the extra mile, in waders if necessary, and sort out the sewerage system in Malton and Norton, which is now spilling sewage into the River Derwent SSSI (Site of Special Scientific Interest) with gay abandon,” he says. “Take a look at visitmaltonsewer.co.uk for data on sewage spill.”
After 12 years of kicking up a stink, “the ‘Battle of Brawby Sewer’ has taken a positive turn,” says Simon, who points out the Derwent is also a designated European Special Area of Conservation. “Yorkshire Water is about to pour £1.5 million into the Brawby drainage system to cure the decades-old sewer flooding issue, and I’m now hoping to work with Yorkshire Water to sort out the sewerage system in Malton and Norton.”
The NCEM performance will be dedicated to the memory of Leeds College of Music-trained trombonist, improviser and The Shed alumnus Alan Tomlinson, who died on February 13 last year. “He famously performed an ‘awareness-raising’ 20-minute improvised trombone solo standing up to his knees in a thigh-high stream of sewage in the Brawby discharge ditch in 2013,” says Simon.
Stewart adds: “About ten years ago, we did Indeterminacy at the Royal Albert Hall, when Alan did a sequence of three pieces on trombone on the same bill and Harry Hill did Cage’s work Water Walk too.”
Simon rejoins: “I’m hoping to show film of the piece that Harry Hill learned for that show – it’s very funny.”
The Shed presents Indeterminacy, National Centre for Early Music, York, February 1, 3.30pm. Box office: 01904 658338 or at ncem.co.uk. Stewart Lee Vs The Man-Wulf, York Theatre Royal, January 28 to February 1, 7.30pm. Box office: 01904 623568 or yorktheatreroyal.co.uk.
